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September 17, 2003

Blogs as Course Management Systems

John Kruper writes a remarkably well-balanced entry, Blogs as Course Management Systems: Is their biggest advantage also their achille's heel?, on his weblog, The Electric Lyceum:

The moral of the story? While blogs and other "lightweight" community publishing systems will surely find their way into the motivated educator's hands, their impact will remain limited until they are married to the more mundane (and decidedly not pedagogically-valued) class management features that are the bread and butter of "traditional" course management systems.

The interesting question then becomes, from which end of the spectrum will this post-revolution revolution emerge? Will blogs grow class management wings? Or will commercial course management systems shove blogs inside the courses alongside their documents and folders? Of course, don't count out the possibility that an entirely new species may emerge, one that is natively optimized along both dimensions!

I've always thought that the idea of replacing course management systems with weblogs just illustrated that the person making the suggestion didn't understand the role of course management systems at the institutional level. Kruper hits the nail on the head, though.

FWIW, weblogs won't take on course management functionality because weblog vendors aren't going to be competitive in that vertical (and they know it). Course management system will eventually integrate with existing weblog tools or incorporate blog-like publishing, though.

Posted September 17, 2003 08:09 PM

Comments

Your Bbias is showing ;-) although I mostly agree.

However, the nice thing about these pieces is that it jogs the CMS vendors to wake up or at least pay attention.

The CMS-es are way behind in providing an organizing focus that is on the student or the person rather than the artificial and less meaning-full unit of the course. They are behind in providing anything behind miniscule student publishing/creation tools, and promote the artifficial notion of learning as interacting with content created by a (master( teacher. Behnd in portfolio tools. Behind in content syndication. Behind in providing public views of content.

But they should be able to catch up.

Comments by Alan Levine . Posted September 18, 2003 12:15 AM

Hi Greg...I may be naive here, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't price a barrier to entry here? I don't know Bb very well at all, but how much does it cost to use and is that cost worth the added functionality that say Manila brings to a public school for $299 a year???
Keep up the good work!
Will

Comments by Will Richardson . Posted September 18, 2003 07:29 AM

Will, allow me to reframe the issue. Do you know the fable from India about the blind men and the elephant? One grabs the leg and says "An elephant is just like a tree!" Another grabs the tail and says, "Plainly you are wrong; an elephant is quite rope-like!" The next hangs on to the tusk and shouts, "Elephants are a kind of spear!" A fourth runs into the side of an elephant and says "Wha?! You're all nuts -- elephants clearly resemble walls!" And so on. (I think there are six blind guys in the fable, but who's counting?)

So . . . if you needed an elephant and your blind buddy brings you a tree, would you care that the tree was less expensive than an elephant? ;)

Trees aren't elephants, weblogs aren't course management systems, and vice versa. Cost is really less relevant to this conversation than an understanding of the wildly different needs that these very different kinds of systems are designed to meet. There might a subset of activities that overlap (the similarity of the elephant's leg and the tree's trunk), but you're not going to get tusks with one or leaves with the other.

I think that people who believe that weblogs are a replacement for course management systems have wrapped their arms firmly around their tree and said, "See? We already have an elephant!" :) Although certain parts exhibit similar characteristics, that doesn't make them interchangeable . . . any more than it makes them mutually exclusive.

(Also: for the record, I'm not talking about Blackboard, I'm talking about course management systems in general. It all holds equally true for WebCT or eCollege or Desire2Learn or whatever. This blog isn't a sales pitch for my employer. However, I do think that having been on both sides of the fence (using & managing a CMS's in universities as well as participating in commercially developing one) gives me a good perspective.)

Comments by Greg . Posted September 18, 2003 11:09 AM

I was just kidding Greg ;-)

Sometimes the elephant gets very large, expensive, and decides to rule rather than serve. Sometimes the elephant walks over your village. Sometimes the elephant forgets that he/she was once a playful child.

Ther is room in the forest for both elephants and trees.

Comments by Alan . Posted September 18, 2003 12:21 PM

Cripes, and people tell me I take metaphors to far. . .

Comments by Greg . Posted September 18, 2003 03:43 PM

No, not at all, I think an elephant is an excellent metaphor for the major CMSs ;o)

We'll see eh!

Comments by James Farmer . Posted September 19, 2003 01:52 AM

So much for trying to raise the level of conversation. :-p

Comments by Greg . Posted September 19, 2003 10:15 AM

You know, I used blogs to run two of my courses. One was a summer reading program and the other was a drama blog, for the production of "The Cherry Orchard" I did. I don't think I should have erased them, but if I hadn't erased them, there would be proof that the blog is an excellent way of keeping track of duties, assignments, grades, and even feelings.

Comments by d fresh . Posted September 21, 2003 03:57 AM

D Fresh, I don't think "proof" is necessary. No one is denying that blogs are valuable in the classroom, and I certainly think they do some things that course management systems don't do.

However, the usefulness of weblogs in the classroom doesn't equate to being a replacement for course management systems, though, which have a far broader set of uses and meet a much wider set of institutional (as opposed to just classroom) needs than the subset to which weblogs are applicable.

Comments by Greg . Posted September 21, 2003 09:13 AM